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we live in brisbane australia and we are going to level 6 restrictions soon and the goverment are offering a rebate for rainwater tanks But we cannot afford to buy one in the beginning! How can you buy one and get it install for very very little amount of money?

I don’t know about Australia but in the U.S. my grandfather dug (by hand) a cistern for his house before municipal water was available. Is this an option for you? It’s a lot of work but 80 years later it’s still full of water.

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For What it is worth- A RainWater HOG sale.

What Is A Rainwater HOG

So first lets look at what a Rainwater HOG is. Probably the best way is through Video. The following is a video of how to set up a Rainwater HOG.

As you can see these units are easy to install and take up very little space. They also help conserve water and are actually better for your plants than tap water. If you live in an area that tends to have dry spells these are the perfect solution.

Pricing Data

If you search the web you will find many places where you can buy HOGs but the prices will vary a great deal. Shipping is a big factor so be sure that shipping is included or that you at least know what it is because it is usually over $100.00 and can make quite a difference in the cost. Note that shipping is ground and not necessarily fast so don’t wait till the last minute to order them if you decide you would like to try them.

The Rainwater Hog makes the News. Here is a news clip about a company that sells these units and about the units themselves.

Rain Water HOG Sale

There is a big sale on Rainwater HOGs at My Part in Saving the Planet.  They normally run  $400 with $110.00 shipping but for a limited time they are only $400.00 each with free shipping for 3 units and $350.00 each for 6. They are even less in volume. Do the research. This is a good deal if you are in the market for these. Ron is noted for great customer service and will answer any questions or get the answers from the “horses mouth” i.e. he’ll ask Sally or Simon.

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Who is Behind the Rain Water Hog?

Sally Dominguez is the inventor of the Rain Water Hog. In the following article you can find out what she has to say about the subject of rain water harvesting:

 

Rainwater Vessels: the good, the bad and the ugly

Rainwater Hogs at Nundah

Select a rainwater vessel for maximum LEED points and maximum karma.

Good on you for deciding to capture and reuse rainwater and take a load off city systems! Saving water, saving “watergy”- the energy to used to push city water around the grid – and unloading the storm water system downstream are just some of the benefits of rainwater harvesting which contribute to your karmic wellbeing and your water use bottom line.

Just as important in the green scheme of things, but often far less considered, is the vessel you choose for collection. “Green” credentials and contributory LEED points vary hugely between rain barrels, cisterns (also known as tanks) and other rain storage vessels. Like most consumer products, a cheap $/gallon price is not often the indicator of value or best sustainable practice. Just as the BPA debate has remodeled the drinking bottle landscape, a reconsideration of the material makeup and lifespan of rain-holding vessels is bound to shake up rainwater harvesting.

PVC bladders are an unquestioned under-house rain storage solution in Australia, yet many European countries and US cities have banned PVC for its severe end of life repercussions. The toxic dioxins released when PVC is produced or burned are suspected carcinogens thought to also bio-accumulate and cause long-term harm to animals and humans.

THE GOOD - saves space, cheaper freight

THE BAD - puncture or rodent incursion, stands are easily destabilized, some serious end of life issues

THE UGLY – The US Green Building Council states that “PVC (is) consistently among the worst materials for human health impacts…” and is considering a LEED credit for avoiding PVC.

LEED status- So a future point for NOT using PVC! Although you may theoretically achieve the two rainwater harvesting LEED points, city laws and possible upcoming LEED changes would suggest that other materials are a better choice for your rain containment.

Steel cisterns - corrugated or straight-walled –will feature a food grade bladder or bonded polymer lining unless they are made of stainless steel. Many steel cisterns larger than 9ft wide have a PVC or stainless steel center prop for additional support. Although steel cisterns have high embedded energy and water costs, some of these can be offset by recycling the steel at the end of its life. A stainless steel cistern is fully recyclable, whilst a lined steel cistern would need to have the bonded layer removed an thus is not technically 100% recyclable.

THE GOOD- large capacity, recyclable, wide range of shapes including slimmer profiles, wide range of colors, good in bushfire, repairable

THE BAD – can corrode, cannot be moved without potentially compromising its structure, radii constraints mean a steel cistern is never truly “slim”

THE UGLY – all depends on your aesthetic

LEED status – 2 contributory points for the rainwater harvesting and a possible point if the design is modular or otherwise innovative

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Concrete water cistern

Concrete cisterns contain up to 50% steel content, making their environmental footprint a chunky one and making recycling of both steel and cement a harder task. Heavier to handle and transport, concrete cisterns come into their own with sheer capacity and with their ability to handle bushfire. Although they are weightier, the anticipated lifespan of a concrete cistern is still 20 years, the same design life as a high quality plastic or steel cistern.

THE GOOD – robust, structurally useful, can withstand fire, no internal bladder, keeps water cooler than other above ground rainwater vessel options

THE BAD – can crack and corrode over time, heavy, unwieldy to handle and install, large environmental footprint, difficult to separate materials for recycling at end of life

THE UGLY – pre-cast concrete has a monolithic, industrial look which you either need to work the architecture with, or hide.

LEED status – 2 contributory points for rainwater harvesting, possibly an extra if you can work the cistern into a design to harness the thermal mass.

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And finally, plastic cisterns. Usually made of polyethylene which is petroleum-based, the sustainability of a plastic cistern ranges enormously from blow-moulded recycled food barrels with a working life of less than three years to robust ¼ inch walled rotationally molded cisterns designed with inbuilt UV stability for 20 years or more of useful life. Unlike Australia the USA does not regulate that rainwater tanks must be made of “virgin” food grade material, so many barrels and cisterns use recycled content which is “greener” upfront, but can heavily reduce the lifespan of a vessel. Reusing food grade barrels for example requires that the vessels are emptied and bleached every year, negating the reuse benefit with the requirement for chemical treatment. Other plastic vessels are so robust that they are designed to be reused several times over their life. Theoretically polyethylene is recyclable at the end of its life but the jury is out on whether UV light renders 20-year-old plastic recyclable or not.

Rainwater Hogs at Nundah

THE GOOD – lots of choice in shape and function, durability (some models), slim lines (depends on design), integrated color and inbuilt UV stabilization, easy to install (the smaller ones)

THE BAD – inferior quality makes many of the lower cost barrels next year’s landfill, thin-walled designs prone to puncture

THE UGLY – plastic vessels not made with UV stabilization will need to be painted regularly, algae will flourish in barrels with open tops, requiring yearly chemical cleaning

LEED status – from a basic 2 points for rainwater harvesting up to 8 contributory points if the vessel has innovative features and the potential for reuse. Rainwater HOG modular tanks, shown above in black and yellow on a school building, have been known to garner 9 contributory LEED points under LEED for New Homes.

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Rain barrel installed

The slew of rain-holding solutions on the market offers a wealth of choice for those who wish to collect and reuse rainwater. Look for long life, robust, durable, UV resistant materials, and if possible look for something you are able to add to or reconfigure as your circumstances and water needs change. Think about how you choose the other essential appliances in your home and apply it to the purchase of your rainwater solution. As rainwater collection and reuse becomes the status quo across the USA those who take the time to navigate their rainwater vessel options will discover that the simplicity of rainwater capture in an appropriately sustainable cistern is a reward for life.

Sally Dominguez is an award-winning inventor, a published architect and an educator in sustainable design. Sally judges invention on ABC TV’s New Inventors and writes for a number of Australian publications on a range of sustainable design and material issues ranging from offgassing in vehicle interiors to green roof options and cardboard structures. See and read her work at www.beautifulusefulgreen.com

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Rainwater Collection for the Mechanically Challenged, Book

This is the best book on the subject of rainwater collection we’ve ever found. Information is presented in layman’s terms, and accompanied with plenty of illustrations and witty cartoons. Topics include types of storage tanks, siting, how to collect and filter water, water purification, plumbing, freeze-proofing, and wiring. 46 pages, paperback. USA.

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Rainwater Collection for the Mechanically Challenged, Book

This is the best book on the subject of rainwater collection we’ve ever found. Information is presented in layman’s terms, and accompanied with plenty of illustrations and witty cartoons. Topics include types of storage tanks, siting, how to collect and filter water, water purification, plumbing, freeze-proofing, and wiring. 46 pages, paperback. USA.

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Australia’s Premier on line water tank shops.

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It depends on what type you are after. I got a 30,000 gallon one from Pioneer here in WA about 7yrs ago and it was near on $8000-10000 then but we did add extras on to the installing. There is so many types, concrete, plastic and zinc. I suppose it depends on what type and size you are after.

I’m trying to find out if there is a precedent whereby you can use rainwater within the Sydney Water area for more than just toilets/laundry/pools and gardens – eg: for hot water supplies to showers/basins. My council are pushing me back.

Just a general observation but what do the council do for those people who are not on mains and only have rainwater tanks? Farms and rural areas often only have rainwater tanks for their household water supply.

The only way I can see the council having a say is if there is a rebate coming back to you and that has conditions as to the rainwater tank usage.

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